The Evangelical Alliance has announced the launch of a recent podcast aimed toward sparking deeper conversations about pregnancy, motherhood, and the worth of life.
The Both Lives Podcast is hosted by Dawn McAvoy, UK lead of the Both Lives movement, and can bring together voices from theology, frontline services, medicine and law to debate what it means to value the lives of each women and unborn children.
Guests for the primary season include Dr Dermot Kearney, a North East consultant cardiologist who faced an 18-month suspension by the General Medical Council in 2021 for giving women abortion-reversal pills, and Carla Lockhart MP, a vocal critic of abortion law reform who argues that extending access to abortion as much as birth in all cases “is just not care but extremism.”
The podcast goals to maneuver the controversy beyond the standard pro-life versus pro-choice divide, as an alternative fostering what Ms McAvoy describes as “a more loving, hopeful story – one where the lives of each women and their unborn children are valued during and after pregnancy.”
Speaking ahead of the launch, she said: “At the center of the Both Lives Podcast is a belief within the God-given dignity of each human life.”
The podcast will even have a look at how media and culture influence the general public discourse on abortion. It goals to make an area for pro-life narratives that rarely get attention.
From September 11, the podcast may be found on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other leading streaming platforms.
The podcast launch follows a weekend that saw over 10,000 people gather in London for the annual March for Life UK, the biggest turnout because the event began.
Participants – drawn from churches, student groups, and pro-life organisations – walked to Parliament Square, where they heard speeches from Christian leaders, campaigners and politicians.
Lockhart addressed the group, saying: “If human rights mean anything they need to be consistent, they need to apply to all. If we’re to see change, we must each play our part.”
Isabel Vaughan-Spruce, co-director of March for Life, challenged marchers to think about the cultural battle around abortion: “Priceless human beings or worthless bits of tissue – what do you suspect and, more importantly, how will you respond?
“These two worldviews cannot co-exist. They can’t each be right. Pick your side but remember what they are saying – the fence belongs to Satan.”
Despite counter-protests and other demonstrations in central London, organisers described the march as peaceful, joyful, and united.
Vaughan-Spruce said she was encouraged not only by the scale of the group but by the non-public stories of advocacy that emerged throughout the day.
Evangelist Glen Scrivener, theologian Dr Aaron Edwards, and Christian Concern CEO Andrea Williams were among the many other outstanding Christian voices present.
Dr Edwards described the march as “a crucial public witness within the hope of getting the stain of abortion faraway from our land,” while Scrivener noted how the message was starting to resonate more widely: “Most people haven’t even begun to think about the size of the problem. Globally, we kill more people in utero than who die ex utero.”
Commenting on the growing energy of the movement, the co-director of March for Life, Ben Thatcher remarked: “More and more persons are recognising the reasonableness and consistency behind the pro-life movement.
“For us to care about human rights in any capability we must start by valuing life itself and meaning the proper to lifetime of all – nobody is just too small, too young or too dependent that their life is just not worthwhile, and that right must be protected in law.”
