(CP) The documentarian who recently went viral after Tucker Carlson told him he was “physically mauled” by a demon pushed back against sceptics who dismissed the previous Fox News host’s claims about spiritual warfare.
John Heers, who founded the nonprofit First Things Foundation, told The Christian Post that folks who deny the unseen realm are deceiving themselves.
“They do consider it, unless they literally don’t think they’ve ever loved anyone or ever will,” he said. “Those persons are liars. They do consider within the spiritual. They consider in things unseen. There’s never been a human who doesn’t consider in things unseen. It’s ridiculous.”
“You think pride is definitely only a series of cellular activities in your brain? No one thinks that. They see pride, and so they see love; they see hate. These things are real. So the incontrovertible fact that they do not believe in a demon just signifies that they have been taught find out how to think just like the Enlightenment taught us,” he added.
Carlson was met with ridicule from some critics after a clip posted on Heers’ YouTube channel went viral on X last Thursday (also Halloween), which showed Carlson claiming he had “a direct experience” with supernatural evil in 2023.
Carlson told Heers that he woke up one night last yr suffocating and bloodied with claw marks on his body in what he claimed was an encounter with a demonic entity.
Carlson said scars from the attack remain, and that it pressed him to read the Bible.
Carlson confirmed to The Christian Post last week that he believes the nighttime demonic attack happened, and pinpointed it to Feb. 20, 2023, which was two months and 4 days before Fox News fired him without explanation.
“Ephesians 6Â is real,” he told CP, referencing the chapter within the New Testament that teaches mankind is engaged in warfare “against the spiritual forces of evil within the heavenly places.”
The clip of Carlson’s exchange with Heers will feature as a part of Christianities?, a documentary Heers is working on with filmmaker Steven “Scooter” Downey, who also worked on the Tucker Carlson Originals documentaries on Fox Nation before Carlson was sacked.
Heers described the film, which remains to be in production, as “a large canvas” that goals to document the assorted interpretations Christians across the globe have of their faith.
“The reality is, people do not know what Christianity is,” Heers said. “Even Christians, they do not fully understand why there are such a lot of [forms of it]. They don’t fully understand the differences. They all think it’s one big thing, and in case you go internationally, it isn’t one big thing. It’s very confusing who’s with who and why.”
Heers, whose nonprofit First Things Foundation he described as “an Orthodox Christian Peace Corps,” said he was raised Episcopalian and wandered down the trail of agnosticism before finding his method to the Orthodox Church.
He noted that his journeys have taken him to far-flung parts of the world resembling Mozambique, Sierra Leone, Georgia, Mali, Haiti and elsewhere. He observed that almost all cultures are usually not as dismissive of the spiritual realm because the West, which he said has been overtaken by materialists who’re “Puritans without God.”
“They have the identical Puritan problems,” he said of the reigning materialists. “They come at people, put them in stocks. It’s all the identical exact thing. They just haven’t got a God to reply to.”
“Any African, whenever you speak about spirits, no person goes, ‘You’re an idiot!'” he said. “They go, ‘Yeah, which of them?'”
“Overseas and all these different cultures, everybody knows spirits exist,” he added.
Heers said his movie, which is slated for a tentative release next yr, will feature reflections on Christianity from “famous and never so famous people,” but said “a door opened” through Carlson’s relationship with Downey, offering him the chance to travel to Carlson’s home to hunt his insight.
Carlson opened up about his supernatural experience after Heers probed whether the presence of evil is “kickstarting people to wonder concerning the good,” which Heers said is a matter he has been asking many individuals.
“The spiritual world and material world are connected, and Tucker’s just attempting to figure it out,” he said. “And these people [questioning Carlson’s story] are jerks, because they don’t seem to be charitable people. They’re uncharitable. It’s possible that it happened.”
Since the demonic attack in 2023 and his subsequent ouster from Fox News, Carlson has been increasingly outspoken about his belief that the world’s political battles are fundamentally spiritual.
“Clarifying obviously,” Carlson said of the attack to CP.
